Welcome to the sixteenth installment of the EVE Blog Banter, the monthly EVE Online blogging extravaganza created by CrazyKinux. The EVE Blog Banter involves an enthusiastic group of gaming bloggers, a common topic within the realm of EVE Online, and a week to post articles pertaining to the said topic. The resulting articles can either be short or quite extensive, either funny or dead serious, but are always a great fun to read! Any questions about the EVE Blog Banter should be directed to crazykinux@gmail.com. Check out other EVE Blog Banter articles at the bottom of this post!

With the recent completion of the 3rd installment of the Hulkageddon last month, @CyberinEVE, author of Hands Off, My Loots!, asks: “Griefing is a very big part of EVE. Ninja Salvaging, Suicide Ganking, Trolling, and Scamming are all a very large part of the game. What do you think about all these things? You can talk about one, or all…but just let us know your overall opinion on Griefing, and any recommendations you may have to change it if you think it’s needed.”

EVE is a sandbox, a game where no single place is safe, it’s cold and unforgiving. This is what CCP envisioned EVE to and what EVE is today.

This means that all the things named above are viable and legitimate playstyles even if the people on the receiving end don’t like it, especially if the people on the receiving end don’t like it.

If all these forms of gameplay would be removed it would kill the sandbox principle, EVE is in some aspects already too limited if you ask me, limiting gameplay possibilities would indeed kill EVE (Or at least part of it).

So guess I brought over my point pretty well there, anything currently allowed by CCP should be kept as is with perhaps a few exceptions in extreme cases, and in some cases it should be even less strict.

Sorry if this is quite short, I somehow ended up saying everything I wanted in just a few sentences, well at least it sounds pretty good.

Regards, Xeross

Participants

• Blog Banter #20 Spoiled Children « Roc’s Ramblings
• Griefing, Ninja Salvaging, Suicide Ganking, Trolling, and Scamming | Nitpickin’s
• Blog Banter: SPACE POLIC HARASSMANT.
• Guns Ablaze » Blog Archive » [EBB 20] Ain’t No Rest For The Wicked
• EVE Blog Banter #20: Griefing, Ninja Salvaging, Suicide Ganking, Trolling, and Scamming
• Victoria Aut Mors » Blog Archive » Blog Banter 20. Quit Yer Damn Whining!
• EVE Blog Banter #20: A Very Simple Proposal | Venoms Bite
• where the frack is my ship?: Blog Banter #20 : Think like a Capsuleer
• Out of pod experience – 20th Blog Banter: You’re a Griefer, NO You’re a Griefer!
• 2010 August 23 « Industrial Crisis
• Adventures in Mission Running » Blog Archive » Blog Banter: Good Grief!
• Blog banter #20: Griefing, not just for the tears « Diary of a Pod Pilot
• Blag Banter #20: “Griefing” | Sarnelbinora’s Blog
• (OOC) CK’s Blog Banter #20: Griefing And Changing. « Prano’s Journey
• Vive Virtual: Motivated Grief
• BB20 – A Shifting Opinion | Shifter’s Mumbles
• Fiddler’s Edge: EVE Blog Banter #20: Pirates and Griefers
• Banter 20: Scamwiches- Chocolate Heaven
• mikeazariah » Blog Archive » BB 20 Blaming the victim
• Freebooted: Dear God, Please Kill Them All
• The Anti-Griefer « Revolting Carebears
• Latro’s Bunker: EVE Blog Banter #20
• Blog Banter on Griefing: Express Yourself
• Griefing… a Blog Banter | Diary of a Garbageman
• Blog Banter #20: The Joy of Loss « Evil Silents

So after our successful roam, we decided to go on a suicide gank, Hellfleet had a nice amount of stocked up destroyers so they were handed out and we formed up near the gate.

After everyone was there (Which took a while) we headed on out into high-sec into a system one of the other recruits knew had a shitton of miners in it.

Our scout and warp-in positioned himself and we jumped in, warped at 10 and we accidentally the entire hulk, so my first suicide gank was a fact (And a lot of fun).

So while waiting out the GCC one of us decided to check the belt and it turned out there was a huge amount of CONCORD in the belt, so I decided to check it out and take some screenshots.

After the other recruit wanted to do another run but most of us were tired and it was already past midnight (Hence why this happened on the 15th and the roam on the 14th) and we decided to call it a day.

So I’m having a lot of fun with Hellfleet, however the current bashing of IRC in the dronelands is also pretty enjoying, so this will be a tough decision to make.

~Xeross

So another roam with Hellfleet, we waited for everyone to ship up, had some discussions on how to refit my cruiser without a remote rep, and took off.

So we started to roam towards a null-sec entrypoint, and on our way we passed through the Tusker HQ, we thought they were following us but it was just a lone wanderer.

After a while we arrived in the destination entrypoint system, however there was a big gatecamp on the out gate so we decided to head back.

After this we decided to continue but a Morsus Mihi fleet came through with Vuk Lau in it (Probably leading it), so the fleet warped for shelter, and I decided to just hang outside the station as they’re blue to me.

After this we wanted to continue further but a Rooks and Kings T3 roaming gang was heading our way so we decided to head back toward our HQ.

While we were heading back we caught a Blackbird on a gate and decided to engage it, the Blackbird went down pretty quickly (No killmail yet) and my armor was holding up just fine even with the gate guns.

After this a Pilgrim warped in and we managed to web and scram him too, however when he was almost down a bright light appeared and a Wyvern hotdropped on top of us.

We decided to see if we could get the Pilgrim because the Wyvern takes forever to lock anyways, however me being a wuss warped out too soon, and the rest also warped out before we got the Pilgrim, it had about 30% structure left.

After this we safed up and got a report of a Drake in a belt (He was probably ratting or something) we engaged him, and then pinned him down once his shield was down seized fire and attempted to ransom.

However our friendly neighbourhood Drake pilot was a bit slow, whether his English was bad or he was just panicking out, he didn’t have enough money for the ransom, so we asked him to eject, he waited to long so we popped him.

After we popped him it turned out he did want to eject from the Drake but he was too slow. After this we held and ransomed his pod which still got us 10m ISK (2m ISK each), a small ransom but still a successful (And my first) one.

After this we decided to continue heading back to HQ and dock up, however after this someone came with the idea to try a suicide gank, so after some setting up we headed on out.

As I got my laptop I also needed a mouse, for the first few weeks I just detached my computer’s mouse and plugged it into my laptop, works great but the switching is annoying.

So I decided to buy a mouse identical to the one I had (the Razer Deathadder), there are a few changes to the new model, higher DPI (3500 or something instead of 1800) and a new cord but nothing of significance for me.

So I ordered the mouse from the Razer website and a few days later I received a mail the package was sent, that afternoon they delivered it.

However when they came to deliver it somehow the packages got switched as this package said it contained a wireless controller for a PS3, so I declined the package.

After this I contacted Razer and after giving them all the info they needed they sent a new mouse which arrived today. So another good job by Razer.

~Xeross

As you can read in my previous post I’ve applied for Hellfleet and I’ve been invited to fleet up and roam around with them, so here’s a report of the latest one.

When I joined the fleet I had no idea what we were doing, all I knew was what the mandatory fitting was (cruiser, remote armor reppers and some other stuff).

So when the briefing started it turned out as a sort of remote repping course, the basics were explained and after that we set out learning while we were roaming about.

As soon as we undocked someone immediately managed to get gate aggro by remote repping someone else, resulting in a perfect training environment of the gate guns rotating targets and us keeping up with them.

After this we continued to roam about with the gate guns still aggressive to us so the learning continued.

After a while we managed to spot what I think was a Zaelot, we warped back and forth between gates at 100km for a while however he kept warping to the gate at 0.

After the last warp he started approaching us, and we decided to approach him, we locked him up and started orbiting, while keeping a close look on our watch list to make sure no one would get blown up.

After a while it became apparent we weren’t going to break his tank (Cruisers don’t do that much damage), and one of us even died because we ran out of cap.

After this the Zaelots friends warped in so we decided to jump. After this we somehow encountered them again, however this time some of us had trouble warping out and didn’t survive.

Finally we decided to dock up to refit, however as everyone was getting a bit tired we decided to call it a day and go home.

So my first steps into the realms of remote repping, it’s quite hard to keep up with the RRing while still putting up a fight, however it’s powerful so good thing I get some experience with it.

~Xeross

So after being in null-sec from pretty much the beginning of the year I grew bored of it. I’m just done with the endless blobfesting (And the lag).

So I have decided to start looking for a different corp, I saw a solo PvP video somewhere (Forgot where) and after seeing it I suddenly that’s what I wanted, small gang and solo PvP.

So after a bit of searching and discarding any corps that didn’t match what I wanted I settles with the Hellhounds. Ga’len suggested that I should join, after some research I decided I’ll try to join Hellfleet.

So I’ve filed my application and have been invited to join up with them in some roaming, and if all goes well I should be in Hellfleet within a week or two.

~Xeross

A system of one of your friends had come under attack and SBUs have been placed, the op would start at 22:00 EVE time or 0:00 local time for me.

We formed up and bridged into the target area, jumping around for a little before jumping into the target system.

When we finally headed into the target system local was quickly rising to about 900 people, of which possibly 600-700 were NC.

We engaged the enemy fleet, and the lag was bad as usual, but with the node reinforcement it was about 5 minutes of module lag on average.

After fighting for about I think an hour the enemy fleet decided it was time to leave, and we pointed and killed as many of  ‘em as we could, however due to the lag the amount of kills I made was limited.

After that it was just a matter of taking down the SBU which took way too long to even be remotely entertaining, and after that head home.

The journey home was pretty calm too, there was 1 red fleet but only a few of the slower people got caught by that.

The main fleet did try to engage them but as it was around 3am I decided I’d just speed home and go to bed. Even though we had lag and the SBU take down was boring I had fun, so all in all, another successful event in my opinion.

~Xeross

I have recreated the page, post and category structure/data as seen on http://wp-themes.com/.

And I have exported this into a WordPress export XML and made this available for download.

The file can be downloaded here

Recently I’ve been playing EVE not as much as I used to, this mainly because of the fact that you mostly PvE when you’re on a lot, so instead I’ll just tag along with any PvP ops I can find, this is one of them.

After forming up we decided to head into ev0ke space to see if there was any action there. However before we got there we got reports of a red roaming fleet in NC space, and we decided to head there.

Upon arrival in NC space it seemed that the roaming fleet had left and we missed the fight, though we were near Cobalt Edge (My old home), we decided to pay them a visit.

Upon entering their space and letting the scout do, well, some scouting they managed to gather a fleet of around 70 people if I recall correctly, so we decided, even though we were outnumbered, to take on the fleet and see if we could do any damage.

After some jumping around trying to get a tactical advantage IRC managed to drop upon us a bit unexpected. As soon as they landed I should have warped off, but for some reason I don’t recall I didn’t warp away in time, and my Rifter was lost.

After trying to do some damage our FC decided to cut the losses and try to get the remaining ships out alive, though most had already been lost a small part of thie ships was saved.

The remaining forces decided they still wanted to continue roaming so I decided to check if I could dock at a RAZOR alliance station to buy a new Rifter, unfortunately I couldn’t so that meant the roam was over for me.

So even though I lost my Rifter before I could even hit anything I had fun, even just roaming around chatting on Teamspeak is better than the repetitiveness of EVE”s PVP.

Well now to wait for the next PVP op which will probably be the next time I play EVE.

~Xeross

Tips/comments on how to improve my battle reports are appreciated, of course you can also write normal comment for this post